Majestic Presents Revised Town Center Project

Majestic Housing and Development presented changes to its proposed mixed-use Town Center/Lantern District project at Monday’s Planning Commission meeting. Among the revisions were the reversal of a requested height variance and aesthetic changes shown in this rendering. Photo: Andrea Swayne

Majestic Housing and Development presented changes to its proposed mixed-use Town Center/Lantern District project at Monday’s Planning Commission meeting. Among the revisions were the reversal of a requested height variance and aesthetic changes shown in this rendering. Photo: Andrea Swayne

By Andrea Swayne

Representatives from Majestic Housing and Development presented a revised version of their Town Center/Lantern District mixed-use project proposal to the Dana Point Planning Commission on Monday.

The public hearing, held at the Community Center, was a continuation of the July 14 Planning Commission meeting.

More than 150 people came to hear the changes made in response to concerns from citizens and commissioners at previous meetings and workshops. Seventeen members of the public commented.

While many said they were pleased with the developer’s response to previous concerns, some remained troubled by parking, delivery, height, setback, public space and aesthetic issues.

The developer’s revisions included a new design with fewer blank walls, additional parking and public paseos where private courtyards were at first proposed. Majestic also withdrew their request for a height variance, agreeing to meet the Town Center Plan’s 40-foot maximum, but maintained plans to build four stories instead of the three-story maximum allowed in the city’s plan.

Resident Jack Lanier said he came to the meeting hoping to hear something positive about the plan and found many of the changes to be just that.

“This is a much better plan, so I thank you for that,” he said. “But my main concern is the massing—four stories with very little setback … buildings of that size, when you stand next to them, are huge. If you set them back 20 feet, it’s not that bad.”

Majestic’s Peggy Tabbas stressed to commissioners and attendees from the public that the revised proposal remains a “work in progress.”

The project plan calls for the construction of 111 residential units and 30,000 square feet of retail space on seven lots. It would be the first major development in the Town Center/Lantern District since the city approved $17 million to be spent on infrastructure upgrades to begin the process of creating a pedestrian-friendly downtown district earlier this summer.

The public hearing was again continued. It is scheduled to resume on Sept. 8, 6 p.m. at the Community Center, 34052 Del Obispo St.

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7 Responses to “Majestic Presents Revised Town Center Project”

  1. Dave Bartholomew
    August 15, 2014 at 12:07 pm #

    The Hearing on Aug. 4 will be as fruitful to developer/ investors as the Sept 8 Community Center charades party. Public staff and council ready to party and lift cool-aid glasses, was announced; I left at this juncture.

    This Majestic-ghettos Apartment design by the ROMA Is-Burning Architects Firm has presented double and triple size capacity projects. It is only legal made by schemes, those having deceptive, immoral practice lead by same law firms’ includes City of Dana Point law firm and counsel.
    To fix this, both a RECALL and a FIRING of the LAW EXPERTS is now needed.

    This new, oversize building precedence will wreck Town Center; but could you trust my opinion? I’ve only worked in the MarCom / New Homes business for 35 years, since 1979, winning more Belding, MAME and Golden Nugget MarCom awards then anyone in O.C. / L.A. / Phoenix. We should not apologize for being artist’s. Here, we see that it is leaders in society that should quickly apologize, for the perfect storm against your future campaign is brewing.

    With the proposed {{ construction of 111 residential units and 30,000 square feet of retail space }} it should cause every retail business investor, most every member of the Chamber of Commerce to stop, think and forecast that such a mob-mentality to city design only serves the Land-lording Land Barons, perched like vultures, watching this tricky scheme unfold.

    They are so very patient to wait and see their 8 year/ high density scheme now and finally coming forth before the sleepy, local romantics. If the People, their Lawyers and City Officials, having an Oath to Office, don’t quickly put a stop to it, the fire that burns, will not be unlike Rome burning in 64 AD.

    “Roman Emperor Nero fiddled while Rome burned” (a myth) [1]

    [1] In Dana Point, the city destruction is no different than a fire; only the rebuilding is what harms us. The existing Dana Point buildings and debris will be removed. Why panic now? Because highrise, landlord driven replicas of the Irvine Co./405 4 story apartments ( ivory rental towers ) will soon later appear instead.

    “Taking place the night of July 18, 64 AD, fire broke out in the merchant area of the city of Rome, 70% of the city ruined.” [2]

    [2] In Dana Point, the new local merchants will be, as seen on drawing building elevations, new corner stones, attached to these apartments and enjoy new business, new customers while old, established Chamber of Commerce business will enjoy no such convenience; for 70% of Town Center is constipated with tourist and immigrant traffic, their past customers wanting nothing to do with shopping in such an impossible congestion.

    Ironically, the Emperor Nero blamed the fire on the Christians. To appease the masses, Nero literally had his victims fed to the lions.” [3]

    [3] In Dana Point, the entertainment environment is the ocean, not the streets. As the Christians were standing in harm’s way, with moral righteousness, word for word, cheek-turning wisdom; I warn the long lived citizens of Dana Point, that this is not a time to turn the other cheek. For the punishment will be as before unfair, it will be persistent and ongoing, overbearing overpopulation when there is no law to justify it, no right by outsiders, no reason to be blamed; for being to sleepy, apathetic and happily romantic, to be punished, to have your life, your children’s future so ravaged. Don’t go with the flow, don’t believe that such punishment is to ‘appease the masses’, to rekindle a healthy economy, for just the opposite will take place.

    “The debris from the great fire was used to fill the malaria-ridden marshes that had plagued the city for generations.”[4]

    [4] The malaria-ridden Roman marshes is not unlike, the Dana Point bacteria-ridden steams and beaches. The new monstrous plans by past and present City Council will drastically impact increases in environmental pollution, bacteria, air, water, traffic and conjestion. Past City Council gave these Land Baron Landlords Waivers and Passes so that they don’t have to worry about such Christian, red-flag, muse.

    DaveBartholomew at cox dot net / 388-1827 puts his name here; while other bloggers’ are too embarrassed to be identified, to willing to throw the first stone, … since no one can see who threw it.

  2. Paul
    August 15, 2014 at 10:00 pm #

    I just can’t get past the similarity to Santa Monica or Venice of this development by Majestic. 4 stories is going to be the ruin of this town. 7 lots worth of 4 story buildings in the town center. Why is this even a consideration? With such little set back this will make for a claustraphobic, shaded tenement. What a crime to take away the true reason people come to Dana Point. Because it is different, quaint, sleepy. Look at this rendering and imagine those discriptions. Nothing different than all the other overdeveloped beach towns. Tall and imposing. There is nothing quaint or personal about it. Sleepy…..? try 30,000 suare feet of retail mixed with 111 rental units. Remember, these units will be new for a short time. Then they will age and the true loss of the beauty of Dana Point will be most evident. And where will Majestic be at that point. Long gone with lined pockets. Lined by a greedy few in power. What a mess.

    • Jason
      August 19, 2014 at 9:14 am #

      I think that it’s great that the developer Majestic is working with the community to build something that is nice and mutually beneficial for all. Clearly they are listening to our feedback and trying to find a “happy middle ground.” This proposal seems right in line with what the city leaders have envisioned and communicated for years. Today our downtown is seedy and decrepit. I hope that this will be the first of many projects to help transform our town center!

  3. Dave Bartholomew
    August 16, 2014 at 11:23 am #

    Paul commented on Majestic Presents Revised Town Center Project. in response to alyssagarrett831: By Andrea Swayne Representatives from Majestic Housing and Development

    Paul said, “ … tall and imposing. There is nothing quaint or personal about it. Sleepy…..? try 30,000 square feet of retail mixed with 111 rental units. Remember, these units will be new for a short time. Then they will age and the true loss of the beauty of Dana Point will be most evident. And where will Majestic be at that point. Long gone with lined pockets. Lined by a greedy few in power. What a mess.”

    Paul, Please contact us (Buck, Betty, etc.) directly, or become an independent leader of the community; as your writing already expresses an accurate portrayal of the coming destruction of mindlessly altering an acceptable environment.

    The City Council should be fired, recalled. Imprisoned? There is no reason, no permission, no common sense to turn D.P. Town Center into a massive Landlord / Rental “project” typically associated with ghetto areas.

    Dana Point, existing business and in-progress landscape is now growing faster than any other coastal O.C. city; WE DID NOT NEED THIS DIANE HARKEY / COUNCIL – ravaging of the planned community. Past City Council with cohorts will successfully triple and quadruple the city without any environmental concern; it is a travesty. These words are not strong enough. In past Recall Campaigns the good wise people of Dana Point had to stand at supermarkets to ask neighbors … ” Please look! Did you know …!!”

    Our moral baby-boom community must now take a stand at supermarkets, at churches, in waste-of-time City Planning and Council Meetings.

    With this warning to 99% of the caring community: All my past experience tells me, that a lawyer or two must stand with us, (with pay if necessary, or with promise of future contracting with the city. Election issue?) The Surfrider Foundation lawyers are no longer as independent.

    New lawyer graduates (Irvine Law School, others) must be recruited to join us, to fight against the Landlord schemes, Land Baron Vultures who want further windfall rents … or, these self centered past City Council will win.

    People who are beginning to understand what is at stake, like Paul, must up the stakes, make a stronger commitment, raise his tone … and wake up all our neighbors. People who don’t sign their name here on the blogs, are vultures in disguise of being a caring patriotic citizen. Instead, they are bought and paid for, the GOP-Reich Party.

    I am my kids dad, DaveBartholomew at cox dot net

  4. Kevin O
    August 16, 2014 at 10:56 pm #

    Three or four stories has nothing to do with the height of the project. 40′ is what is allowable per the Town Center plan. A fourth story may effect the density, but you could build one, two, or three stories at 40′. As for 20′ set backs, that is ridiculous. The debate about the allowable heights and setbacks should have occurred during the Town Center sub committee phase. Now is NOT the time, unless you real goal is to stop any development in Town Center. Many people have moved beyond NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) to BANaNA (Build Absolutely Nothing Near Anyone). If that is truly what the citizens of Dana Point want, tax themselves to raise the funds to buy the land, and we can build a big park in the middle of town – like Laguna Beach.

  5. Dave Bartholomew
    August 19, 2014 at 5:29 pm #

    Paul is apostle-like with insight, Jason is like a masked killer.

    Jason, your point: “Majestic (Apartment Development Co) is working with the community to build something that is nice and mutually beneficial for all.”

    Paul, your point: Majestic. 4 stories is going to be the ruin of this town.

    Good point Paul! Jason: Don’t look for the newspaper reporter to say, “Rome is burning” for the newspaper owners make big bucks off Real Estate advertising, their biggest display / legal notice, space buyer. They set aside their morality / character for a few bucks, selling out respect for themselves everyday. Sad to say, for 60 years, we expect it. (Look at Fox, CNN, etc.)

    For example: (Wiki quote The Nazi Party. Under Hitler’s rule, Germany was transformed into a fascist totalitarian state which controlled nearly all aspects of life.

    Hitler // the Nazi Party and others like Mohammad // Osama bin Laden were city leaders, they told the followers, they have envisioned and communicated for years. (Just like you say Jason) On the other hand, the ‘envisioned communications’ by President Obama // NAFTA are also the people and programs, prophets making promises that; “their way is best.”

    Sometimes, especially when there is no prior reference and past experience for reasonable comparisons, we vote to give these leaders a chance to prove to the people, that ‘change was a good thing’. Except for President Obama, … all the other proposals and people named above were very destructive.

    We know that over development is very bad, we know that 4 story apartments is very sad, we know that poor and stupid planning (commissioners) can allow an environment, a lifestyle to be wrecked. Imagine if the Hilton Hotel chain was allowed to build any size, anywhere, whatever in the Yellowstone Park. Do you think that just (1% horrible) is a good thing to tolerate? I don’t. I don’t therefore agree with (99% horrible) concept proposals.

    Why not stop everything … at a time when stopping is possible? Did the good People of Germany know that they could not change their minds later, after seeing a Hitler plan unfold? Should we trust our gut? Since when in the last 60 years should we be trusting in either the politicians / legislature / the all righteous courts?

    For you to say what you do, to stick your neck out with such trusting ignorance, doesn’t just chop off the head of and innocent bystander (Jason). I could live with that.
    But, it cuts off the heads of all of us.

  6. kathi
    September 2, 2014 at 8:00 am #

    I’m not an architect, but I work creating architectural renderings. I’m a resident of Dana Point. This plan is non-descript. It looks like any other renovated street anywhere. it doesn’t take into account any of Dana Point’s character. The architect/designers need to take a walk around town and absorb our town’s unique character. If that fails, they ought not to fall back on “mid century midling” for design ideas. We’re a historic little town, for Pete’s sake. The Dana Point walkway over the PCH has more unique character than this design. I say its an “Ugh!”

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